So You’ve Seen the Puppy/Cliff Video, Yeah?

All, Blog Entries March 3rd, 2008

In the past 24 hours or so a video of an American soldier in Iraq throwing a puppy off a cliff has gotten a lot of attention online. If you haven’t seen it, I strongly suggest you keep it up. Dead fucking serious.

Now, I’ve been using the internet for a long time — I’ve fucking seen it all. I distinctly remember the first time I was Goatse’d, and it’s all downhill from there. During the height of the 2 Girls 1 Cup hysteria, I even went on a personal crusade to find a more offensive, shocking video (which I believe I found in the infamous BME Pain Olympics video). You might think I’d be jaded at this point. So I’m not sure what possessed me to click a link on Reddit that read “US Soldier Throws Cute Puppy Off Cliff (Disturbing Video).” What did I expect to see? The title just about sums it up — It’s a disturbing video of a US soldier holding a puppy by the scruff of its neck, pretending to show it affection before casually throwing it off the side of a mountain. As it yelps its way to the rocks below, his equally inhuman cameraman observes “That was mean, man,” and all involved smile and shrug it off. I desperately wish it was faked, but it doesn’t appear to be, and I don’t want to watch it again to analyze it. Of all the horrible, horrible things I’ve seen online I really only truly regret watching this ONE video, which is why I’m not directly linking to it.

It’s the most infuckinghuman thing I’ve ever seen. Is this the sort of respect of life you learn, the resulting dehumanization you suffer from spending time in battle? In this respect the true cost of war cannot be quantified just in terms of trillions of dollars spent and civilian lives lost. Ironically, had I been present, I don’t believe I would have felt any remorse in shooting him in the kneecaps and pushing him off as well. Oh, the difference being I would have subsequently accepted responsibility for my actions. My reaction to the video was strangely instinctual: I wanted to hurt this guy. A lot. This is a shining example of relative morality: Do I believe this guy’s life is somehow more precious than the defenseless animal he killed? Absolutely not. In fact, I believe this is the premise for A Time to Kill 2.

I wasn’t alone in wanting to unsee the video. It probably ruined the next month of my life. Fortunately, somebody else had the foresight to post a “counter” video of a 13-day-old hamster eating a piece of broccoli, which I will be directly linking, to help offset the psychological damage.

Enjoy. And support your troops, except for that piece of shit that threw the puppy off the cliff.

Update: So as of about six hours ago The Internet has potentially identified the soldier. You can check out his Bebo account here, where, despite the fact that this is all unconfirmed (though very likely), The Internet is wishing him luck in all future endeavors, as well as posting his personal information such as home address and cell phone number. My favorite part of his profile, besides everything, is his answer to “Scared of:” (Hint: he put “NOTHING!”), which is totally unnecessary to point out, since everybody knows you have to be a total badass to throw puppies off cliffs. This guy is going to be a target for a special brand of hate crime for a long, long time. I mean, of course, if the electronic lynch mob has the right guy.

Here’s my theory: The Church of Scientology paid this guy to videotape himself throwing a puppy off a cliff to get The Internet off their back.

Update Again: Well, his Bebo account has since been made private, as well as his two sisters’ Bebo accounts, which were also getting a lot of comments. All of his family members whose numbers were publicly posted online have been disconnected. A US Marine Corps spokeswoman also says they’re investigating the incident.

74 Responses to “So You’ve Seen the Puppy/Cliff Video, Yeah?”

  1. Ryan Says:

    huh. i like how theres a couple people on his side for fucks sake. ive seriously thought about stabbing this guy all morning. i cant turn off the hate i have for this guy. and i havent even seen the fucking video. thanks for NOT posting a link.

  2. mom Says:

    Even cuter than the hamster eating the broccoli is the hedgehog eating a carrot, just in case people need more cuteness to overcome this (check out http://www.cuteoverload.com).
    And this is just one more reason this patriotic bullshit of “honoring our military” pisses me off, as if every single soldier is fighting for a higher cause, or is so super altruistic and wonderful…That sort of “patriot” can’t admit that most people in our volunteer army are there because it’s really one of the few options available for them, especially if they want to pursue an education. As for the other reasons, how about cuz they’re into power and want to kill things?

  3. mom Says:

    P.S. This is one of the few times I find myself wishing there really is a hell just for people like him!

  4. herm Says:

    juss seen the video thas really fucked up if i seen him on the streets i would beat the shit out of him soldier or not then put a bullet in his head….thats a stupid muth fucka

  5. Snsoryoverload Says:

    I scoured the internet trying to find confirmation that this was fake…with no luck.

    I can only hope that by now, other marines have had the privilege of viewing this clip with the same kind of anger and disgust I am feeling right now. I hope David Motari & friends are painfully coming to the shocking realization that they will never see their loved ones again as they are being brutally beaten and maimed.

  6. Jesse Says:

    Who the hell is Herm?

  7. zhx Says:

    I don’t know either of those people. They must have just stumbled across my blog.

  8. miT Says:

    Your mom is awesome, she said all i was thinking in a nutshell. jar heads…you dont have to be sharp to get into the army or marines. its just got to be full of the worst people this country can provide.

    i’m the biggest dog lover out there and i really hope (since i could never watch a video like that) that guy really really gets his.

    Also i must say, thanks for not posting the link to that video. if that had automatically loaded or something and i had watched not knowing what to expect i would have been lifeless for at least a week. much appreciated. i’m only glad that you wrote this so hopefully someday soon i hear just how badly this guy gets his…and i really really mean that. i keep thinking of my dog and what would i have done if i had seen or heard that guy did something to my dog…i would have been uncontrollable thats for sure and on the witness stand my lawyer would have used the temporarily insane route as i know i would not be able to control my self. people hurting animals i just can not stand. i hope someday soon i hear about how badly this guy gets whats coming to him.

  9. Spoiled Rotten Says:

    Mom, MIT,

    You are pathyetic morons. Your judgemental attitude and stereotypical remarks regarding the military personnel expose you for what you really are: uptight, spoiled, cowards.

    The only reason you have the ability to freely express your opinions on a web-site like (unlike Iran, Pakistan, China, etc.) is because of the very people you criticize. The only reason you have the ability to legally pursue damages against those that harm you is because of soldiers. The list goes on..

    Most military personnel are honorable, loyal, ethical individuals. There are cruel, idiotic, evil people in every facet of humanity and newsflash, there are far more sleazeballs and criminals in your ranks than those of military personnel.

  10. Justin H. Says:

    Yeah the guy in the video is obviously a terrible human being, and anyone who would do something so cruel to a helpless animal is a worthless piece of shit…but to say that the army and the marines are full of the worst people our country can provide is a pretty fucked up statement.

  11. zhx Says:

    Yeah, they’re overgeneralizing a bit. But I have several friends in the military (or ex-military) that would more or less agree. I think all they’re saying is that the army basically attracts two types of people: EXTREMELY desperate college-seekers, or the type of person that is attracted to the police force. You know, people like Jesse.

  12. zhx Says:

    Oh, and SpoiledRotten (whose comment I had to fish from my spam filter), the military hasn’t LITERALLY protected anybody’s freedom since the second world war. The biggest threat to our personal freedoms in the past 60 years has come from your fucking president. Get a clue.

    “No time for proofreading, boy wonder! This pathyetic bleading heart blog has an Obama banner!”

    I do agree with you that all mothers are criminals, though.

  13. bored Says:

    What I don’t get–

    Assuming it’s a real video- why do people get all freaked out and pissed over this stuff but are able to stay in total denial about the same sorts of atrocities being committed against actual HUMAN BEINGS?

    It is not an indictment against the troops as a whole to acknowledge that this kind of shit goes on in a war which was ill-conceived and is clearly completely out of control, and especially where there is no accountability for the mercinaries running around doing god-knows-what…

    I mean we’ve seen the videos of the guys shooting randomly at civilians in the trucks and yet radio talk show losers like Michael “Savage” act as apologists for this kind of behavior, or deny it exists.

    And yet the evidence is everywhere.

    http://digg.com/pets_animals/David_Motari_MUST_DIE_PUPPY_KILLER

    War makes normal people into psychotic killers. We will be living with the consequences of this bullshit war for generations. And paying for it as well.

    B

  14. zhx Says:

    I think people are jaded. You hear on the news “10,000 people dead” or whatever, and your brain doesn’t really compute it. Those 10,000 people aren’t in my monkeysphere. It’s just a number at that point.

    Plus c’mon. Puppies are people too.

  15. Caleb Says:

    I snagged this from the reddit.com comments, but I think it’s a decent analysis:

    “A few people have suggested watching this is more sad than if, say, a person had been killed or atrocity been performed. I was wondering why, as I imagine many people wonder.

    I figure.. if the guy had thrown a grown man off of that cliff, at least a human would have seen it coming and might have been able to escape, injure the guy, or otherwise have given the guy a motive. But a puppy.. up until the second he let go, that puppy would have liked the guy and possibly trusted him.

    So.. it’s not the fact he threw something off a cliff that’s disturbing, perhaps, but the fact he destroyed something that had no potential to harm him whatsoever and, potentially, was excited for the attention. Harming things that blindly trust you is the sign of a very sick mind, and the mourning for the dog pales in comparison to the disgust at the sick individual performing the act (although these feelings seem, at least, to be confused into unwarranted sympathy for the animal for me.)

    End of psychoanalysis. Perhaps I’m wrong, but that’s how I deconstructed it.” - petercooper

  16. JB Says:

    I like to think of myself as an extremely diplomatic guy. I would love to kidnap this guy and make a hostage video out of him, demand $10,000,000 from his family, and when they can’t afford it, make a beheading video out of him. I would then like to post a video on youtube of me hurling his head off a cliff then laughing about it. Finally, I’d dump the remains of his body (which I will have chopped up into pieces) on his family’s front door step, and I might even go and get the head and put it on a stick and stick it in their garden.

    And then repeat with the other guy in the video.

  17. Cameron Says:

    it’s a terrible thing, sure, but i think that people should lay off a little. endless comments of ‘i hope you fucking die’ and ‘the barrel of my gun will be the last thing you ever see’ is excessive.
    of course he should be punished, but if the death of a puppy at the hands of a stranger thousands of miles away is keeping you up at night, you’re probably bored.

  18. zhx Says:

    I see where you’re coming from, Cameron, but JB presents a very compelling argument.

  19. Justin H Says:

    i also agree with Cameron…it’s extremely excessive. And JB…wow. Really?! I really wish that people were given the opportunity to actually DO what they say, because I’m pretty certain they WOULDN’T. Jesus Christ

  20. zhx Says:

    He said he’d LOVE to, not that he would. Street justice.

  21. JB Says:

    Oh believe me. If I could, I would. I wouldn’t feel ashamed stabbing him in the heart in his sleep and twisting the knife. If I could find him and do it I would.

    I think a person who can take a completely unassuming, innocent animal - whether or not it was unbelievably cute, which it was, but just any innocent animal - and just kill them like that and laugh about it, just makes me so mad that I would love to kill him just to watch him die. I’d go to jail to avenge that defenseless puppy.

    Unfortunately, I think that someone will probably get to him first.

    I just keep telling myself that maybe it was some sort of hoax (you don’t actually see the dog when he takes his arm back) or the dog survived (you never know). But this guy has some explaining to do. If it comes out that this is real and he walks free, I won’t feel bad at all hitting him with my car and backing over him.

    Sorry to be so violent, but it makes me feel better talking about ways of killing him. After all, it looked like he enjoyed killing that puppy.

  22. Kyle Says:

    What more can you expect from someone who grows up in a Bush Uh-mur-ica. We toss guns into the hands of thirteen year olds and expect eight year olds to shoot field mice and birds with their BB guns. I don’t believe that the desensitization has anything to do with Rambo movies and Grand Theft Auto games but more with the reality of murder being instilled in kids as young a possible, murder without a purpose. I can’t count how many fucked up things I saw kids do to animals when I was a kid, every action without a second thought or an ounce of remorse.

    Its disgusting and if I found a bunch of random forums and blogs through a haphazard google search to yell about it on I would fix it, providing that I make it sound like I have some insight on social and political situations even if I get all of my information from Jon Stewart and just regurgitate it with violent words and empty threats towards people that I will never meet or even see because the anonymity makes me super tough and a completely different person.

    Sorry to be so sarcastic, but it makes me feel better talking about ways to make anyone notice me or care about me. After all, I am just some tool that thinks his opinions matter literally everywhere even though exact copies of my opinions can be found in any random forum.

  23. Ece Elicin Says:

    I wish this sick killer to suffer at his last breath like he made the puppy suffer. The puppy was so afraid, so innocent, screamed with horror when he throwed him to death. I can never forget the scene, unfortunately I saw it in breaking news. I am blaming his family as well, how could they raise such a sick soul? I will follow the ‘David Motari’ news, I am awaiting him to be penalized by the Navy. He is disgusting, inhuman.

  24. Justin H. Says:

    24419 Florence Acres Rd
    Monroe, WA 98272-9662
    (360) 794-7191

    here you go JB. Go get him! Hold true to your word. Go murder someone and go to prison for the rest of your life. It’s worth it man. Especially since you are so upset and so sincere in your hatred towards him. He’s out of the Marines here soon, so you have some time to say goodbye to all your loved ones, and really “plan” your murder of this guy. Good luck

  25. Jesse Says:

    Then you can fuck his girlfriend!!

  26. Justin H. Says:

    and get her pregnant then kill her baby. fuck yeah! that would do that puppy killer justice for sure!

    i may be wrong with that address though, it came off of http://digg.com/pets_animals/David_Motari_MUST_DIE_PUPPY_KILLER

    so I just assumed it was his address. With a little more research and effort though JB, I think you can really make it happen. I mean it would be totally the smart and justified thing to do

  27. JB Says:

    I’ll fuck his girlfriend’s brains out - then chew through her throat!

  28. Ryan Says:

    but what if shes brain-less?

  29. Justin H. Says:

    then a zombie probably got to her before JB did

  30. zhx Says:

    Oh c’mon Justin, like you’ve never been so mad at somebody that you’ve made empty threats.

  31. Jesse Says:

    I’ll kill you!!!

  32. DK Jones Says:

    Well, he’ll be out on the sidewalk soon panhandling with all the other war heroes. Just spit on him and tell him to get a job. That’ll do.

  33. Cameron Says:

    maybe he just didn’t want to look like he was getting a big soft one for the war on terror.

    between Lynndie and Motari, i think we got this thing just about wrapped up.

  34. Justin H. Says:

    no, I have made empty threats…not saying I haven’t. But JB said, and after I called him out on his “threat” that he would indeed kill him if he had the chance. I was just trying to help the guy out by giving him his address. Anyway, it just seemed a little over the top with some of the comments people were saying…that’s what I was getting at. And Jesse, next time I see you I am fucking going to stab you until you die, then hate fuck your wound

  35. dave Says:

    You guys all miss the point that puppy cliff throwing is extremely humorous.

    LULZ>

  36. zhx Says:

    Oh I get it now.

  37. Ryan Says:

    how did i not see it before? hahahaha puppy death. that IS comedy gold.

  38. Panda Says:

    Anyone who thinks hurling a puppy off a cliff, or hurling a puppy at ALL, is humorous, needs to be hurled off a cliff. I am dead serious.
    I watched the video by accident, and found this blog by links. I just wanted to say… First of all, I do not find the death of a human nearly as disturbing as the extremely cruel death of a puppy or any other animal. Why? Because every other movie and TV show I have watched for most of my life has had people dying in it. Every night there are people dying in the news. How often have you actually SEEN a puppy hurled off a cliff?
    I have heard that the Marine in question has returned home from duty. I hope he is gang-raped and shot.

  39. Panda Says:

    To add, it has been clarified if you research at all that the marine lives in Hawaii. That address is fake.

  40. Jesse Says:

    Its common knowledge that in Hawaii it is part of there culture to throw puppies from cliffs

  41. Ryan Says:

    i’ve heard that too. strange people.

  42. JOEPuD Says:

    hawaii oh brother…

  43. Justin H. Says:

    they also eat a lot of Spam in Hawaii. Fucking Hawaiian people are so gross

  44. JOEPuD Says:

    man howard you really need to relax and go smoke a jay

  45. Ryan Says:

    haha

  46. JOEPuD Says:

    first the religion thing and now this talk about helping kill someone oh brother… dont think you would be scott free of the murder you would go down for being connected to it for giving out the address of the victim

  47. JOEPuD Says:

    that what marines are trained to do kill puppy its like the second thing they learn right after push-ups

  48. JOEPuD Says:

    im surprised none of you guys knew that its in their training manuals page 12 look it up

  49. zhx Says:

    Page 12 is roundhouse kicks, dude.

  50. JOEPuD Says:

    oh my bad but i know its in there

  51. Scott Says:

    I just want to say:

    A. I love the Marines, I was one and as a now college grad with a good job and pretty damn intellegent (and before anyone points it out spelling and grammer are not my strong points.

    B. Don’t think this sick fuck is a rep for the Marines, yes Marines recruit some sick people but walk into your local mall, high school, restraunt, you’ll find sick fucks there too just the marines make the sick sicker and the good better.

    C. And in my pov the most important. If I were in this guys squad either he would have followed the puppy or the next day there’d be a “friendly fire” incident. People like this do not belong in our society and with the mind set he has I’d bet you anything within 5 years he’ll be in prison for murder.

    List of marines (just so you know we are not all bad)
    Drew Carey
    Shaggy
    Don Adams
    Ed McMahon
    Rod Carew
    Roberto Clemente
    John Glenn
    Gene Hackman
    Harvey Keitel
    Montel Williams (served in Navy and Marines)

  52. Rob Says:

    Close! It’s page 13, so you were RIGHT there!

  53. Justin H. Says:

    very well said Scott…

    now Bill, for FUCKS sake write another blog so we can have something else to talk about.

  54. zhx Says:

    I know, Adam’s in town so I’ve been busy.

  55. Jesse Says:

    Great band

  56. zhx Says:

    …what?

  57. JOEPuD Says:

    i think jesse is talking about the awesome band of military brothers

  58. Jesse Says:

    Im talking about the sweet band Adams in Town

  59. Caleb Says:

    I heard they suck live.

  60. Justin H. Says:

    Live fucking kicks ass live. and the album “throwing copper” shiiiiiit get right the fuck out of town

  61. Jesse Says:

    I can feeeel it cooooming baaack again, Like a roooolling thunda chasin tha wind

  62. THUNDERFUCK Says:

    Dear Bill,

    Please write a new blog.

    Signed,
    The Internets

    P.S. Seriously man, people are now singing “LIVE” songs. It’s degraded to the point of “LIVE” songs. It only took a week to get over the puppy and move onto “LIVE”

    P.P.S.
    I alone love you
    I alone tempt you
    I alone love you
    fear is not the end of this!

  63. JOEPuD Says:

    nice

  64. zhx Says:

    Dudes don’t worry, forces pulling from the center of the Earth again made me put some new photos up. Plus I have a blog coming of me and Adam’s insane night the other night. Which won’t be public. Haha

  65. Faerysquirrel Says:

    To JB and Scott,

    HOORAY, oh finally! You guys and the others like you are my HEROS! YOU are the real heros, not that miserable disgusting piece of sh__. Oh you just don’t know how bad I and literally millions of other females want the real heros to go and DO JUSTICE! He’s based in Hawaii. Couldn’t be too hard to find, huh? Geez, you don’t know how bad I wish I could go over there and get that bastard piece of crap. You guys can thank dudes like him for making the rest of you all look bad. Boy, I’ll bet he’s really patting himself on the back! How can his newly married wife be with someone like that after she found out about this? You couldn’t PAY me to stay with a guy that did an act like that NO MATTER WHAT!
    Good for you! Give yourselves two thumbs up!

  66. zhx Says:

    I can’t tell if she’s being serious, sarcastic or ironically sarcastic.

  67. Buttsauce Says:

    I just read that paragraph, and while being completely lost throughout, I feel that we’re all now dumber for being in its presence.

    I wish all of you the best of luck, and may god have mercy on your soul.

  68. Justin H. Says:

    what the fuck? my thoughts were exactly yours Bill to response to comment 65…huh. well LIVE said it best…

    when all that’s left to do is
    reflect on what’s been done
    this is where sadness breaths
    the sadness of everyone

  69. Michael Says:

    Just stumbled in… thanks for not posting the video, too many people out there only make the problem worse. I agree this guy is very very messed up. Screw “coping”. Where do you draw the line of “coping”? His family doesn’t deserve to be drug into all of this, nor do the rest of the Marines.

    Not every Marine throws puppies off cliffs.

    He threw his future and his reputation off that cliff, and I’m so very glad for the man behind the camera who said his name out loud.

    Just because you join the military doesn’t give you the right to pull whatever shit you want and get away with it and say it’s ok because we “aren’t out there” and “dont understand”

  70. The Jerk Says:

    I don’t know what the big fucking deal is….I would have done the same thing, or shot it at least -_-;

  71. Jason Von Stein Says:

    I hope that sick fucker gets in to a fight and gets his fucking face beat to a bloody pulp and then I hope they gangbang him and cause irreparable colon damage. I want to see that bastard in a wheelchair unable to move and then Id like to see his nurse play the video of what he did to that sweet harmless puppy over and over so that fuck can see why he was beaten like he was!!!!!

    God save me from thinking evil thoughts about this piece of shit.. this goddamn useless skin puppet!

  72. Jason Von Stein Says:

    He through more than his reputation off that cliff! He threw humanity’s reputation off as well!

    How many sick fucks condone it!!! That is our so called “civilized” “sympathetic” human race!

    We deserve what is coming to us… if one of ours could do that, we deserve to suffer an agonizing extinction! God Please help us!

  73. EmmxUK Says:

    I feel the same as all the normal people on here - sickened and disgusted, and I will probably never forget the cries of that puppy as it went to its death, its last few seconds of life/conciousness ones of absolute (needless) terror. And it is true there are many many soldiers out there who have ben filmed doing similar things. Not fit to consider themselves human or indeed animals. Check out this link however to some idiot who claims he has “the mindset of a champion” - this is just one of several stories he tells of animal abuse he’s perpetrated during his twisted selfish life. PATHETIC

  74. EmmxUK Says:

    Sorry here it is!:

    http://www.byroncrawford.com/2005/03/i_once_killed_a.html

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